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Apr 8, 2026
A Masterful Podcast Debut
A Masterful Podcast Debut
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0:00
Venmo Joe, it's been a little bit We're back Welcome back. We're back, baby. We're back. We're back. We're back in a different way. We're back with a brand new show. We got, uh, we got, what is it?
0:09
We got, we got called up. We did a, a few segments. We had a good time. I had a good time. We, uh, we picked a few pretty, I- I think pretty good winners. That's a nod to you.
0:20
You, you left off last introducing me to Maverick McNealy, who's won me money time and time again, but we were noticed by local sports blog hero, Chris Burhans, founder of Sports Mockery.
0:34
For those of you who are in Chicago, you know Sports Mockery. If you're not, maybe you don't, but you will very soon.
0:39
Invited us to do their first ever golf podcast, and I'm honored to have them select me of all people, which is just fucking asinine.
0:50
[laughs] But I've, I've tagged you, Joe, my friend, to come in and, and try to keep the, the wheels on the street.
0:57
You, you have brought a ton of knowledge to me when it comes to how I look at the gambling side, the predicting, handicapping.
1:05
You were the first person I talked to who actually started talking about the course before the players, and so we're gonna have a whole lot of fun. This show is not just a podcast though, Joe.
1:16
You will go to nostrokespod.com and you will find access to a tour level intelligence platform, which we have brought out for the Masters. Thank you to our tech friends at Sports Mockery for building that tool.
1:31
Every single week, we will be introducing the tournament like you've never seen it before. Technology interlaid with analysis, interlaid with real people who play golf, live golf, talk golf, and have fun.
1:43
This is your boys podcast for real, and so I, I cannot wait to get started.
1:49
The platform is amazing, but you, you've kinda taken away my excuses for bad picks now, because you've given me so much data that- Oh, but I have not... I got, I got- I have not... no excuse now.
1:59
No, no, this platform is trained on you. You are a part of this platform. Well, that's da- well, that's, yeah, that's dangerous. That's why it's gonna lose... No, that's why it's gonna win.
2:08
No, this is, this is how shit is done in 2026. This is a modern golf podcast. That's what I'll tell you. But you can't go forward until you go back.
2:17
So what I wanna do is I wanna start off our show kind of where we stand. We're about to head into major season. This is my favorite time. We are... I'm kinda done with baseball. I don't know why. I know it's sad.
2:28
Um, don't listen to that if you're a Sports Mockery fan. To me, I'm down to, be 42 in May, got kids, I am down to Super Bowl, football season, I got March Madness, I got NBA playoffs, I got the World Series.
2:42
That's kinda it, and then it's golf, golf, golf. So to me, entering major season is like this is the summer. It's every Friday with my guys playing golf. Tonight, I'm capping off our winter sim league.
2:54
Hopefully, we're in second place now. I hope to leave in a different place, though we have a, a lot of [laughs], a lot of points to gain on.
3:00
But we kinda started talking about this show a couple months ago, and we started tracking what that would look like, and I think it's, it's worth revisiting, because you and I are both in a couple of DF- DFF leagues.
3:11
We are in a couple one and dones. You picked up a win at the Players. I picked up a runner-up in that same Players. I- I've got a couple other firsts. You've got a couple first runners-up.
3:22
I'm in, I think, fifth place in our one and done, and almost all of that is as a result of what you and I started a year ago, talking about how we look at, how we look at who's gonna win.
3:34
It's a different way to look at it, and so where are you at on things? How are you doing as far as your picks, your tourneys? What's, what's the cards looking like for you? How do you feel about the golf season so far?
3:43
I think the golf season has been great, right? You have gotten guys that have finally kinda gotten over the finish line after, you know, either not getting wins or not having wins for a couple of years, right?
3:55
You saw Cam Young, um, it- his biggest win of his career at the Players Championship. That Players final nine was unbelievable, right?
4:05
When you look at, at Ludvig the robot going from unstoppable to flaring out two shots. Fortunately, I had a, a, a Matty Fitz live ticket at 65 to 1 that I sweated out and lost on the 18th hole.
4:19
But you've got Cam Young p- peaking at the right time, and then the next week, Fitzpatrick, right? He's runner-up at the Players. He wins the Valspar. What I've enjoyed is that you've had parity this year, right?
4:29
You haven't had Scotty or Rory winning a majority of the, of the tournaments leading into the greatest week on the golf calendar, the Masters week.
4:38
So I look at going into the first major here is that you don't have one of the top guys just come scorched earth, like having won three of the first seven or eight tournaments.
4:50
I think it's as wide open as it's been in, in probably the last five or six years.
4:55
Not to say that one of those two top guys aren't gonna be there, but instead of having five or six guys that you think can win the biggest tournament in golf, I think you have more like 15 to 20 guys, which I love from a betting value standpoint and just a pure golf entertainment perspective.
5:14
We need the drama. The LIV PGA drama, I think, has pretty much played its course. I don't think there's- It has... that much there anymore. It's done. Uh, you know, it's funny though. We, you say we've got this parity.
5:23
We did not start the season this way. Scotty came out, we were talking Tiger-esque Scotty. He wins, he's kicking ass, then he starts having the, like, Thursday yips, and- Yeah... you know, then he's got the kid.
5:34
Someone probably should text the wife on when nooky night should be. It's not hard to look back at the calendar. It's April every, every year. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Like, Sc- Scotty- He's, he's having a really-...
5:44
start having, yeah, start, start- Dude... start having those kids be born, like, in October and November, right? Like, what- Or-... what are you doing here, buddy?
5:50
Or maybe, maybe he's just getting it all the time, and it just ain't... Hey, you know, let a player play.All I know is it has surprised me that he got over it. You know, and I guess y- we all have our opinions on it.
6:02
I think he... I do think he actually kinda got over the yips, that his ability to close escrow on Sunday, and really bring it back to, like, the leaderboard 15, 20, even though he'd be almost near cut line.
6:11
I think he realized he was gonna miss either one or more tournaments because of the pregnancy, and I think he just was like, "All right. I don't give a shit.
6:18
I'm gonna bail here, and go work on my game, and kinda de- declense." I, I think he's gonna come in really, really hot, which we'll, we'll talk about this a little bit later in the show as we actually cap the Masters.
6:28
But one of the things that you mentioned that I think is important is, like, we have really fought... I mean, the supposed Tiger era has really fought to find, like, who are your heroes. We tried to do this, like, the...
6:39
What was the, the banana boat foursome that they had the spring break picture of Justin Thomas, and Fowler, and these guys all on a...
6:45
And Spieth and those guys hanging out on the banana b- Don't forget Smiley Kaufman in that, in that foursome. Well, yeah. Well- Good old Smiley Kaufman...
6:52
good old S- well, Sm- but the problem is- The, the, the one and only Masters appearance Smiley Kaufman. Oh my God. They, they just... They haven't lived up, and it's really hard. How do you live up to that?
7:02
It's like trying to replace Jordan. You know, we, we put all these people together, it just didn't work. The reality is it actually did something that really was not covered, and I, I hope we talk more about it.
7:11
But, like, we have got a deeper field of guys that have very different stories, stories that we haven't tried to sell before. The Gary Woodland thing, the, the PTSD story, and win. I mean, it's just an epic story.
7:24
The collapses- I know... that are, like, not really collapses. They're, they're just really tough breaks in some ca- some cases collapse, but tough breaks. You've got so much talent.
7:33
I know you, I know you, I know you like your boy Shane Lowry, but that was a collapse, right? Well, that's a- Like, there w- there's been, there's been some Sunday collapses, and that was one of them.
7:42
It's a storyline that makes you feel like every one of the players who's, like, tier two good is capable of schoffling and winning and schoffling and losing. And it just seems like- Absolutely...
7:55
the way that we win and lose in this tour today is entertaining as hell. Like, it... You know, we, we look at the Bridgeman win.
8:03
There's a handful of these where you look and you're like, "Five-stroke lead, snore, no point in watching Sunday."
8:09
And before you know it, it's like the last hole, the last 30 minutes, and it's, like, a one putt away from winning and losing, and it's been like that almost every single week.
8:17
And we're gonna bring that into the Masters, but the thing about the Masters that's different than all the other tournaments we're gonna talk about is the Masters brings its own baggage.
8:26
And the reality is it is nearly improbable that there's a repeat winner. I forget the last time before Tiger. It's, like, it's been a long time. It rarely happens.
8:37
I think the oddsmakers had put it, like, 6% that Rory actually can repeat. Scheffler's coming in. He's Scottie Scheffler, so who knows. I'd put money on him.
8:45
But it's not normal that the prohibitive favorite hasn't played in four weeks or whatever, and hasn't picked up since the last time he had a hard time getting across the cut line to start. Like, it's been...
8:56
You know, that's not, like, a normal, normal way to come in. So that kinda makes him not necessarily the, the lead dog. And then you've got all these guys who have won over the last decade.
9:05
Like you said before, 12 to 15 people in the, in the, in the sort of gallery of players, and it's, it's really hard to pick.
9:12
And you've got this sort of lived part where Koepka's back, and Patrick Reed is, is so much of a favorite right now. 9 plus 9,000, whatever he is. Like, I don't, I don't even know what to say.
9:23
Like, that's usually the, the kinda underdog pick. Now we got him, like, as everybody's pick.
9:29
So it, it's setting up for a crazy- Yeah, he's, he's, he's getting a little too m- he's getting a little too much love for, for my liking. Not that, not that- Time to fade... the data doesn't back it up.
9:38
But when you're making bets, yes, you wanna make bets on guys that you think can win the tournament, or top five, top 10, wherever you do it, but you also want someone that you enjoy rooting for.
9:48
Patrick Reed's just not a guy I can root for. Like, I, I don't want to be sweating out a Sunday golf bet with Patrick Reed. Like, I wanna be cheering against him versus wanting him to cash me a ticket.
10:02
And I, I can see why people want to bet him this week, it just... He's that unlikable for me. I hate him. He has always been my Masters pick. [laughs] But, but the thing is he is, uh,
10:13
usually, like, the, the, the fifth or sixth of my pool draft. Like, you get him at, like, $6,500, $7,000- Yeah, now he's got a high, yeah... something like that. Now nine. Yeah.
10:22
And, you know, like, let- let's make the case. Like, I, I, I think he's incredibly overrated, which is insane because he, he's a legit contender in my mind. Like, I would pick him.
10:33
If it weren't for the fact that everyone's picking him, I would pick him like I always do, and he always pretty much never disappoints. And, like, look at the bowl case. This dude won Dubai, won Qatar.
10:43
He's second in Bahrain. He's been on the DP World Tour win. He's runner-up.
10:48
He's f- he's, he's been all over the place, and of course he's won the Masters, and he's got the skill set that is, like, the perfect bag for the Masters. And yet he's got the most punchable face.
10:58
Like, he's p- like, normally he runs under the radar as, like, the bad guy, and yet he's taking selfies. Don't sugarcoat it, Scottie. Don't sugarcoat it, Scottie. Dude. Call it.
11:05
He took a picture of himself coming out of PJ. That's just not... Like, he... I'm just saying, guys who start believing their own hype usually shit their pants, and that's...
11:15
I don't want it to happen 'cause I probably will put or have put money on him. But I don't love it because it's, it's really hard to take a guy who is that unlikable and make him a favorite. I don't know.
11:25
Like, it's [laughs] just very difficult for me to... Yeah, I don't- I mean, you laid out the, you laid out the case for why people are circling him, right?
11:32
He's won, and, like, the biggest thing, right, is that he's got flexibility now, right? He's, like, quote-unquote, "a free agent." He's been playing on the DP World Tour. He left LIV, right?
11:43
He left the four A- the, you know, the esteemed Four Aces. I, I don't know how they'll ever be the same again without Pat Reed.
11:51
The thing that concerns me, and it's a, it, it's with a lot of the golfers that are coming into the Masters is there was a stat that, like-11 of the last 13 Masters winners played at least one of the two events leading up to the Masters, right?
12:05
Like, in one of those two weeks they played. A lot of these guys have taken three to four weeks off, Patrick Reed included. That's what I'm saying, yeah. He has not, he has not played in a month.
12:13
And yes, you could say, you can make the case of, okay, well, what did he spend... He spent that month prepping for Augusta, so he's gonna be primed to do it.
12:21
There's the other side of the coin where he hasn't been in a competitive tournament in a month, and even the tournaments that he has played in 2026 has not had the best fields, right?
12:31
Like, the DP World Tour, I think has got- No, come-... one guy or two guys that have qualified for the Masters. Like, so he's taking a, you know, a step up in competition, and he hasn't played in a month.
12:41
So he'll be one of the guys that, that I fade gladly. I, I actually have money on him. That's fine. Not be- not gladly. It's just a ritual. He almost never fails me. I will say this, and I don't...
12:52
I'm pretty clear I don't like the guy. Uh, we're gonna have him on this show sometime, I promise you that much. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure.
12:59
Oh, dude, I, he's, he's g- we're gonna make it- I'm sure his, I'm sure his wife is gonna allow him to come on this show. Hey, you know what? I got ghost Twitter accounts too. I can play that shit. It's fine.
13:07
Yeah, you got the burners. I think they, I think they've got a- I got me and KD. Me and KD. I think they've got like a stable, they've got a stable of burners. Scott Catoun's mom on Twitter.
13:14
Scott Catoun's mom on Twitter. No, but the thing is, I do think that there are certain players that just... And he, I do believe, is one of them because he's, he's... This is not me saying this.
13:24
Like, he has always had issues with playing with people, playing partners, people playing with him and not liking him. Just, even teammates at college thing, it was a whole deal.
13:33
He's not a guy who I think really gives much of a shit about what the people playing next to him or watching him think. And so, like, I would say the exact opposite of, like, a Dustin Johnson.
13:43
That's a guy who, like, when people are watching him, if, if, like, they don't like how he looks or does something, I think it bothers him.
13:49
I think that's why when he goes on live, he just sort of disappears and, and it doesn't matter. I think that's what bothered Jon Rahm, is that he wasn't getting attention, and he's kinda figured that out in his head now.
13:58
But, like, Patrick Reed doesn't care. Masters is one of... It's like, it's like the one time a year you get to walk the red carpet and people remember your name.
14:05
The one time he shows up and all the people who he doesn't like have to shake his fucking hand 'cause he's got a green jacket. And I, I think it matters, so I think a guy like that can show up anytime.
14:13
Yeah, it's, and you know, hey, you know what? It's the, it's the one time a year he actually gets invited to a dinner, so I, I know it's a special week for him. Well, it sounds like it's a good dinner.
14:22
Well, since we're talking about Augusta, why don't we pivot to this? 'Cause I actually think this is one of my favorite parts of this show, and we couldn't do it without our friends at Fried Egg. Shout out to A.D.
14:31
Johnson. Love what Fried Egg does. So I'm just gonna pull their information in. They do such a great g- great job covering courses. Yeah. You should check out Fried Egg if you haven't. They are live at Augusta right now.
14:42
They are posting all of the conditions. I've got hole-by-hole updates of holes to look out for, holes that are playing different than normal.
14:49
I don't wanna spend a ton on a time, a ton of time on it, Joe, but I do think it's worth mentioning because it, in my opinion,
14:57
and this is the, the greatest test of all to our, our little technology background intelligence system we built, because things change in real time.
15:04
You said at the top of the show, a lot of times you come into a show, you talk about Thursday, and that's all bets off. Up until Thursday, and now it's off. Well, we've got a couple things going on.
15:14
We've got a weather condition that looks like it's basically gonna be just perfect. Windy, dry, fast. Yeah. So if you're a person who has a heavy putter,
15:26
who has a hard time trajectory-ing and flighting balls in with wedges, your distance guys, Sam Burns, some of these guys who can smoke the ball, they have an advantage off the tee, but they do not have an advantage on approach.
15:39
And if you do not put on approach at Augusta, your ass is gone. And if you look at, like, Bryson DeChambeau, you know, you can get away with, like, not a great putting week.
15:49
You cannot get away with having 40 and 50-foot putts all week. You gotta be making two putts inside of 20 feet, not praying for two putts inside of 30 or 40 feet.
15:57
If that's where you are, one, you won't score, and two, that, that's over in my opinion. Like, what we're looking for just to set this up, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we're through it now, 73, 66.
16:08
When tee off time kicks off, it's gonna be 69 degrees. It'll be 74 on Friday, 0% rain. Thank God. We are talking Augusta at its fastest. The scores will be...
16:20
I, I think the scores will, will, well, potentially they could be lower than ever, but I, I actually don't think they're going to be. I think you're gonna have a clean week of play.
16:29
Anyone who knows the course has a huge advantage, as always, but I think this opens the door for the people who maybe don't know the course as well.
16:39
Because they have, they have the ability to play fast, and I, I think that's a little, little different nuance than we're used to.
16:46
Yeah, agreed, but I think, you know, the, the tough part with the newcomers, right, like you said it, Augusta's always extremely firm and fast.
16:54
I think even more so this week with the great weather forecast that you just laid out. And you've got the bent grass at Augusta, right?
17:02
So that, the, that's the first pure bent grass setup that the PGA Tour players see on the calendar, right?
17:08
So what that means, right, and this is what the pros and the caddies say, most complex and nuanced greens to read. So yes, there, there is some advantage to the playing conditions.
17:20
If you haven't been on those greens, like, in competition, like, I just think you've gotta have the course experience, or at least you have to have a caddie that's got that course experience, because they are gonna be complex, nuanced greens to read.
17:34
So first off, you gotta get the, the read right, and then you've gotta get the speed right, and you've gotta tou- you've gotta barely touch these putts. I, I agree with you. I, I think more what I'm getting at is the...
17:48
Anyone who's won the Masters I think has a, you know, totally different advantage. If you've played the Masters, like I'm thinking of s- like Si Woo Kim, like- Yeah...
17:57
four or five cuts made, like knows how to, knows how to manufacture his top 20s, like knows what he's doing.He would be disadvantaged slow, like on a slower course play because there's bombers who are just gonna grip and rip.
18:09
And if it's fast and downhill, grip and rip doesn't really matter anymore. It's all about ball striking- Yeah, 'cause you're gonna... You're right... and approach, and not being a bad putter.
18:18
So, like, being a, a great putter makes this incred- you know, a good ball striker, great putter, huge advantage. If you're just a so-so putter, you're just not a terrible putter.
18:26
So, like, that's where Schauffele to me is super interesting this week as well. Like, he can be a decent putter. He can also be just atrocious, but he's a great ball striker. Yeah.
18:36
So I, I think the, the course in general is sh- setting us up a little different than normal. There's no weather wild card. Uh, and- We've had a lot- Yeah, and we've talked about this, right? And you've hit on it.
18:45
What you're looking at with the, the great platform that our friends at Sports Mockery has put together, hone in on shots gained approached, in particular from 150 to 200 yards, because what Augusta has is they've got a lot of long par fours, right?
19:03
So, you're gonna have that 150 to 200 yards out. Look who, who, look who gains shots there. That's who you should start your card around. Yes, you've gotta get off the tee.
19:13
Yes, you've gotta have good, um, shots around the green and putting, but it's that 150 to 200 yards on those 10 par fours that are gonna make or break the, the winner this week.
19:24
Yeah, I mean, look, I think, why don't we talk about a couple of these holes. Obviously we always talk about as they, as they make their way around the turn, they get some tough holes.
19:31
Juniper number 6, I think this is the biggest surprise. This is what the guys at Fried Egg found. Uh, the drop from the tee to green is more severe than the TV even shows.
19:39
They feel like it's, it's gotten to a point where it's severely downhill, so now you're heading into a very contoured green, very hard to, to land on a normal day, let alone a dry day.
19:48
I think that's gonna put a ton of pressure. I think that's a hole that I look out for for all these guys. You can be even par, you know, plus 1, negative 1, negative 2 getting into 6.
19:59
Whether 6 is a bogey or a birdie for you, I think is the dictator of whether or not you're gonna be able to get through 12 and be in contention.
20:07
And as we know, if you can't get through 12 and 13 heading into the final stretch, like at least at even par, you have almost no, no chance.
20:15
And I think it brings in, you know, another one, Holly 18, Fried Egg's big take on this I thought was interesting. Uh, [chuckles] actually said the hole kinda stinks.
20:23
[laughs] A few of the positions around the green were, were not in like the, like not the greatest position for approach. Modern distances mean players will barely hit the club anyway.
20:32
So, like, unless you literally clip the side of the green or clip a tree or something that kicks you into an basically unplayable or, or unfair area, not much can go wrong, which kinda takes away from the anticlimactic part.
20:44
Mm. I am wondering,
20:46
this is like conspiracy Scott over here, I'm wondering if that is because we've seen there's some outcomes in the last few years that have kind of come down to that, that hole that we don't wanna see someone fall on their face.
20:57
I don't, I don't know. It just, it was interesting to me- I-... that they- Listen, listen... they, they painted it like a letup a little bit. That, that, that's a driver hole, right?
21:06
So to say it's kind of like a nothing hole, you're, you're taking out the fact that that's the most narrow tee shot that those players see all day.
21:16
And when you've got the pressure coming down on Sunday, yeah, if you hit a great drive, right, more likely than not, you've, you've got an easy par, unless you're Rory McIlroy last year who had 125 yards in and pulled it into the bunker.
21:31
But I've seen Scotty in those trees before. I've seen a lot of guys- Yeah... have their rounds derailed before Sunday driving the ball on 18, right?
21:40
So if you drive the ball great there, yeah, you're probably gonna make a birdie or a par. But to say that, that that's just a given, I mean, I've... Looking at that hole on TV, that drive scares the shit out of me.
21:53
Right. Like, it looks terrifying. Well, according, according to these guys and their drones, they feel like it's, the hole is not playing as hard as it, as it has in the past, whether that's distance or whatnot.
22:01
I don't know. The hole that I have my eye on, this is my betters hole, for, for those listening who partake.
22:07
15, always a toughie, but with the, with the weather as it is, and the bombers being pulled out of the bomber advantage, so to speak, it kind of allows for anyone to go for it in two.
22:19
Not anyone, but, like, a lot of the players on tour are going for this in two.
22:23
And my prediction, and we haven't even talked about the players yet, but my prediction, an Adam Scott type coming into here with a nice shot at eagle, a 23-footer left to right, sinks an eagle.
22:37
I think the winner of this tournament, the person, whether they win or not, or the person who's gonna be your, the kinda the, the, the pole leader most of the week, is gonna be the person who gets the first eagle or the first two days of eagle on that hole.
22:49
And if you're a person playing it for birdie and par, I think that's gonna be really tough. So, like, I... That's one of the holes I'm- Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna be giving-... that I'm looking at...
22:58
a shot, you're gonna be giving a shot out to the guys that are gonna attack it. Can I just say that I love that you mentioned Adam Scott? We are on the same page.
23:06
So I can't wait to get to our, our picks, because he is a guy that, that I have circled that I, I think can be this year's Justin Rose as far as a, an older guy that you've kinda forgotten about that- Yes...
23:18
all of a sudden you look up on Thursday and you're like, "Wait, why didn't I think of Adam Scott? The guy's five under, and has, has got the prettiest swing in all of golf." And now with, uh, we won't get into Tiger.
23:28
That's been spoken about. But now with Tiger, you know, not around for a little while, let's say, I feel like Adam Scott's the new spokesperson to the PGA. He's the most likable guy. He's got a beautiful swing.
23:36
He's still competitive. His... Like, he's giving me, I turned 42 in May, he's giving me the hope of a, an older guy now. He's, he's increased his swing speed, which is just insane. Yeah. And I, and I absolutely love it.
23:49
You said, talking about players, why don't we transition to that? This is what the show's really about. Capping the lines. I'm gonna read these off to you.
23:55
These, these were as of, I believe, yesterday, so if they're outdated by the time you guys listen to this on Wednesday, let me start from the top.
24:00
Plus 500 odds, Scottie Scheffler down the line, Jon Rahm, Bryson DeChambeau, Rory McIlroy plus 1,200, uh, Ludvig CyborgA plus 1,400.
24:11
[laughs] My guy, my fellow Callaway TCB Raw playing fellow, Xander Schauffele, who I actually do have some money, 'cause I, I just love him. I want him to win so badly. Plus 16.
24:22
Matt's Fit- Pat- Matt Fitzpatrick, fellow Wildcat, Chicago zone. That's one of my sleeper picks even though he's highly rated. I, I just think he's got the game. He's a, he's a tough bastard, which I love.
24:32
And then Tommy Fleetwood, we could talk about that. Justin Rose, and we've already spent more than enough time on Patrick Reed, who's at plus 35 on this. So let's take the top first.
24:42
We already kinda talked about the fact that Scheffler's coming in different, but you mentioned a lot of these guys are coming in without having played in two, three, four weeks, so that's not different.
24:51
I don't think the kid thing matters, so long as he doesn't get pulled over and put in jail, I think he's fine. Rahm, there is a lot of talk about Rahm. Yeah.
24:59
I feel like that's the- He's getting, he's g- he's getting so much love coming into this. Um- Is it too much? Yeah. I mean, the- I currently have him in our, your, uh, your daily fantasy.
25:10
I have him- Yeah, keep, keep him, keep him in there... as my first pick. So. Keep him, keep him in there. Keep him in there, buddy. I don't like to hear, I don't like that. I don't wanna hear that.
25:17
Listen, Jon Rahm is a top three player in the world. My issue is ever since he's gone to LIV, you've not seen it translate to major success.
25:26
So to me, I, I need to see it before I say, "Hey, out of that top tier group, that's the guy that I'm gonna back."
25:33
Completely understand why people have him slotted as, as one of the guys that they've circled as a favorite at Augusta. I mean, he's won here before. He's got an insane amount of talent.
25:44
He's still only won, I think, on LIV. I think Bryson has beat him twice. Our friend Anthony Kim dog walked him in Adelaide on the back nine. AK, man. I love AK. AK, baby. That story is the best. I love it.
25:56
He- It's good... we will get on this show, I guarantee you that. I have an, a couple of little DMs back and forth with him, and he's just, like, the coolest dude of all time, so we're gonna get him on the show some day.
26:04
That would, that would be awesome. I wanna bounce around a little bit with these players. So, like, Rory, we kinda capped it. I mean, there's nothing you can't say. He obviously can win any time, any place.
26:13
I don't doubt that. He's now got the whole, you know, he's got, he's won all the majors. I just think it's really difficult for a guy to come back and win back to back.
26:20
I think it's difficult even for a guy as good as Rory McIlroy, but specifically Mor- Rory here. We've got the back thing going on. That's a question about Morikawa. That's probably why you don't see him on here.
26:29
Um, and in general, I think we've covered it. Oberg, Cyborg, Seiberg, I love, I love this dude's game. I think if he win, if he were to win it, I, I wouldn't be surprised.
26:41
I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the final one or two guys the last hour on Sunday. I just don't k- like, it's, whenever he does turn it on and wins, he'll win a shit ton in a row.
26:51
But f- until then, it's still this sort of, like, you know- Can he close?... it, it's just... Yeah, he- Can he close? It's, it's the same- That, that, that's the question... same thing that gets me with Schauffele.
27:00
Same thing with Schauffele. Yeah. Can he play on Sunday? Well, Schauffele, but, but Schauffele's won two majors, right? He's won. I know he's won. Yes. He's won two majors.
27:05
But that was the question mark on him, and I think Ludwig is now in that, in that same vein as Xander was before he got over the hump. Yes. Ludwig's the, one of those guys, right?
27:14
When you saw him at the Players on Friday, and I was watching him, and, like, when he gets in a groove, you're like, "How does this guy ever lose a golf tournament?"
27:23
Like, he just, when he has it going, it looks so effortless. It looks like he's just gonna birdie every hole. Vintage Hovland- And, like-... is what it looks like... it, yeah. When he, like, wins.
27:31
And, like, to be hon- watching him when you've got a ticket on another guy, when he's rolling it like that and playing, you're just like, you just feel defeated.
27:39
But then Saturday at the Players comes around, and he doesn't give the tournament up, but he kinda gets stuck in neutral, and then Sunday, kinda same thing. That front nine, I think he played at even par.
27:50
He was given, you know, uh, Fitz- Fitzy and Cam Young I think gained two or three strokes on him on the front nine, but he still had the lead.
27:58
And then you get to, to the back nine, pressure at, at Sawgrass, and, you know, that robotic kinda, like, smooth, easy swing all of a sudden kind of abandoned him a little bit, and he pushed it out right into the water on 11, and then sent it into the water again on 12.
28:15
The, the, Augusta obviously fits his eye, right? I think he was, you know, the d- top debutant two years ago. Uh, finished solo second. Was gonna, I think he was tied for second last year until he blew up on hole 18.
28:29
I will not rule him out. He's not a guy that I'm fading this week. It's still one of those things, though, where, you know, can he close it on Sunday?
28:37
I do think his first big win is gonna come at Augusta, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's this year. Keeping receipts on that one.
28:45
Uh, he's a g- guy I feel comfortable putting in my, my foxhole from a, a pick standpoint, 'cause he's gonna be in it.
28:51
He might not win it, but, like, I don't think he's gonna be a guy where, you know, you're looking at it Friday afternoon and being like, "I, I can't believe I picked him." Like, I, I think he'll be around on Sunday.
28:59
It just comes down to that pressure on the back nine. Yeah. No, I totally agree. And it's like, as we look through this, I mean, Justin Rose is another example of this, where he has got the Adam Scott.
29:09
You mentioned that before. He's a player who I think could be plus two after, after Friday, and you're just not talking about him, and he ends up in the top 50, and that's just what it is.
29:17
Or he could literally just be, like, plus, you know, negative three every single day, and he's, like, in the top 10, and just sorta sneaks in, or he could win it.
29:23
I don't think he's going to, but he has that sort of sneaky game that just- Please, let, let him win it, Scott... keeps rolling. Let him win it. I would love him to. So I got- I would love him to...
29:31
so I bet Justin Rose- I just don't think he will... I bet Justin Rose, and I think you're aware of this, the, uh, Thursday night after his first round at Torrey Pines, he just had that- Yeah...
29:41
like, look where he's gonna run away with a tournament. He does run away with that tournament. He wins by seven shots. I think he breaks the, the course record. I got him at 60/1 back in January.
29:52
Those odds have now been cut in half. But,
29:55
you know, it just depends are you gonna get the, you gonna get the Rose that you saw at Torrey Pines or Augusta last year, or to your point, like, he has had some inconsistent play over the years. I just think that
30:08
some- like, just like Ludwig, right? Like, Augusta fits Justin Rose, right? He's had the, he's been runner-up three times.Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. I just, I don't know.
30:19
That, that to me would be my favorite storyline, is if Justin Rose finally got that green jacket, and I, and I hope he does it in a playoff, because he has lost two playoffs at Augusta, first to Sergio in 2017, then to Rory last year.
30:34
I want him to get that green jacket. That's my, that's my favorite pick. That's my favorite storyline of Masters 26. I, I can't get, I can't hate that. I just, it's f- so, he's such a s- an interesting player.
30:47
Like, I can't think of a comp for him. I was trying to think of, like, NBA comps or, or, or just anything like that. Like, a guy who's won majors, who's been a player. He's what, 45, something like that? He- Yeah...
30:59
like, he just, he's a ho-hum. He wins, and you're just sort of like, "Oh, yeah, eh, that guy again." It's like he's just stacking- Yeah, like he's still around... stacking trophies. He's still around.
31:08
Just, and it's been that- Yeah... his whole career. He, he's, you know, he's Ed Harris of movies is what he is. He's a guy who, like, is, like, on the cusp of winning Oscars, wins a couple, gets nominated.
31:18
Fucking 15 years, he looks the exact same, and you're just like, "Yeah, it's still Justin Rose in there." I was gonna say, like, that he's, he's like the one guy, his hair gets better as he gets older.
31:26
It's like it's, it's unbelievable. Like, well, I guess that's what money- It's the same as us... that's what, that's what money buys. I have no money, but I, uh, I got a beautiful head of hair going. No, it's...
31:35
I, I love that storyline. I would love to see it. I think we top this off by, you know, it would be quite historical, frankly, for Schauffele, or sorry, for, uh, Scheffler or Rory to win.
31:44
It'd be the first time both Tiger stats since '05 that the top two co-favorites win. It would be the first time of a back-to-back since '01, '02 Tiger.
31:53
So, like, I just think what we're really looking at is that list that you just kinda read through. There are, though, I think a few under-the-radar p- radar picks here. 1,000%.
32:01
And when I say this, I am not just talking about betting. I am talking about entertainment.
32:06
I think that one of the coolest stories of this, I would say, season so far to me is the introduction to players, and this is the future. This is why the field's so deep. Introduction to guys like Jacob Bridgeman.
32:17
I didn't... I watch golf a lot. I didn't know who the f- that guy was, and his game- He would be bold... dude, I love watching his game. That dude doesn't give a shit.
32:28
He just puts it out and just lets it roll, and so, like, looking at a guy like him, he's what? Plus, plus 6,500. That is probably unlikely to win, but, like, he's got tons of game.
32:41
I don't think he cares who he's playing against. Uh, you know, it's kinda like the Pearson dude on non-Masters. I, him, him- He's very interesting...
32:48
him, him winning at Riv, right, in LA, one of the toughest courses on the PGA Tour year in and year out. There's really no comps to Augusta, but if you were to comp it, Riviera is one of them.
33:02
And what he was able to do that Sunday, where he had a big lead, and he was, he was playing very conservative, but, you know, Rory didn't go away.
33:10
And he had to make a big putt on 18 with, you know, the sponsor of the tournament, Tiger Woods, like, over his shoulder, like a knee-knocker five-footer, and he buried it, right? So I,
33:20
I definitely think he's pressure tested. It's just the fact that he hasn't played here, right? Which is gonna be- Yep...
33:26
you know, which is the conundrum, which is probably- It probably excludes him from winning, frankly... it's probably why you're seeing the number that you're seeing, right?
33:32
Like, if this was his second or third Masters, and he's coming off of winning the Genesis at, at Riv, he's, the, the number is cut in half at least. But I like him. I like his game a lot.
33:42
Well, look, we've handicapped this course, the players, the weather, the whole thing, I think, as much as you can, so let's start getting into the picks and pools here.
33:50
We're gonna do all of our fans a favor and give them some good ones. Normally, I would tell you, "Do whatever I don't say," or "Do whatever, don't do whatever I say." Both. You're kind of on a heater though, Scotty.
34:00
This year? You're kind of on a heater. I'm on a bit of a heater, though. I am on a bit of a heater, so, you know, I... We're gonna, we're gonna track our pick as a show going forward. We, we got practice rounds.
34:09
We got our reps in pre-major season. Major season starts now. From now on, this show has an official pick. That official pick, by the way, will be Venmo Joe's pick.
34:18
Venmo Joe is gonna be the person who, who locks them in for us. Uh, but we'll talk through it a little bit. I wanna help our, our friends out with a one-and-done strategy.
34:26
If you're an idiot like me, you played Scheffler early, and I got a ton of shit for it, and now it's like, "Well, I kinda got- But you got the, but you got the- I got a win... but you got the win with him.
34:33
You got the win at American Express with him. I did, but it was a little, it was a little, it was a little win. Yeah. But now, like he started to play kinda average, it was like well maybe it wasn't the worst thing.
34:41
And so I've got a lot of guys that I call horses for courses. I, I have a lot of that lined up for the rest of the season, so I expect to do well.
34:49
Uh, and I don't assume that all one-and-done str- uh, strategic players are necessarily thinking that far ahead. But let's just assume that you are looking at your board.
35:01
What do you think is the strategy for this tournament? Is it just you... Like, if you've got Scheffler- I think-... and you've got one of the top three, you pick it?
35:10
Yeah, and th- this is the, this- Or you go with a top five approach, and just be in the top five... this, this is the, this is the biggest individual payout, right?
35:17
In, in our one-and-done, and I'm sure in a lot of one-and-dones. Right. It's based on, on cash, right? So- Is that why I picked Patrick Reed in my one-and-done?
35:25
You should pick, you sh- you should pick, you should pick your top guy.
35:28
With that said, if Rory and Scotty and the top guys are gone, I mean, this is always a perfect opportunity for the Liv guys, because you only get four opportunities to utilize that, right?
35:38
So- I'm gonna push back on you, Joe... an opportunity to potentially look at Rahm or Bryson there. I'm, I'm pushing back on you there. I, I think
35:46
th- you, when you start the year on your one-and-done, you wanna have your big horses available for the, for the Masters and for all the majors.
35:53
But I think that when you look at what we've talked about today, like, I don't necessarily think that using, if you have them available still, Scheffler or Rory's a good grab here.
36:02
I would save Rory for, like, the British or Scheffler when you see a little bit more.
36:06
Unless you truly think he's gonna win this year, which, I mean, he might be the bad example 'cause he's so far and way better than people, and he's coming back on unknown.
36:12
He, he, he, he wins at the courses that he's won at. I hear you. There's val- That's true... there's parity that hasn't existed here. That, Scheffler may be a bad example of thisYeah.
36:20
I don't know, I just, I think that it's, it's shaping up to be very difficult for those guys. I'm a numbers person, so when I see it, it's like I... For me personally, this would be my approach.
36:29
I'm looking for guys who I expect to see in the top five who have every bit the chance to win. If Rahm is there, and that's what you've got on the table, like maybe you take that.
36:38
I wouldn't like reach and try to pick someone who's gonna be an outlier win. I think that's a recipe for disaster.
36:43
But if you go with, you know, several of the names we talked about, I, I really think that if, if they land on the top five, you've done yourself no disservice in your one and done.
36:50
If you pull out and win, you know, you're, you're probably leading your one and done at the end of it.
36:54
And then if you, if you're so ballsy as to leave Rory or even Scottie off of your pick, you now have two very likely potential major winners for your next three majors coming down the pipe.
37:06
In which case, that is game over on your one and done. So if you are in that position, kudos to you. That's probably why you're doing better than the one and done than me. [laughs] A little bit. I, uh,
37:20
what I would say is pick the guy you think that, that is gonna win, right? Like, that if you've got him available, the guy that you've handicapped that you think is gonna win, that should be your one and done.
37:30
I think based on everything that we've talked about, like if I had my pick of all of the top guys, and I'll, I'll give you more dark horse picks. Yeah. If I had my picks of all the top guys- Who's your one...
37:39
This right now, one and done for the show. This is official. One and done for the show. Well, this isn't who I- We're, we're fresh in...
37:44
this is, this isn't who I would use in the one and done, but my pick to win the Masters is Justin Rose. That's who I'm riding with. That's not who I would pick in one and done.
37:52
Who I would pick in one and done is Ludvig, right? Just, just based on what we talked about, right? Like I think- Yeah... his, his- Well, but see he fits into my top five thing, right?
38:01
'Cause that's a guy who we expect to see- Exactly. Exactly... on Saturday and Sunday floating around. Exactly.
38:06
If 15 goes right, Ludvig's walking away with a jacket, and if 15 goes wrong- Like you had, his floor, his floor-... or he boils up on 18-...
38:13
is so much, his floor, him and Scottie's floor I think are the highest of everyone, right? Yeah. 'Cause like I just- Yes... don't see them not being top 10, top 15, and that's what you want in the one and done.
38:24
You want a chance to win, but even if you're not gonna win, you're still gonna cash a big payout. Yep. No, I, I totally agree with you.
38:32
DFS, so in general, this is something that like you and I both have had a pretty successful season on in, in making pool picks. I think this is something that people do not well.
38:41
Like, if I'm talking to my, my golf friends, I don't think that they do this very well, because they usually pick based on either what they just saw on ESPN, which is just a terrible disaster, but also there's this, like, you know, we had the beginning of the season where Scheffler was too expensive.
38:54
So if you made Scheffler's bet, it was basically Scheffler and then whatever you could cop- cobble together. This tournament, as you set us up at the top of the show, is wide open.
39:05
So how would you recommend people make their picks? How would you pick your... I'm not gonna ask you how you picked yours, 'cause we're not locked in yet. Well, yeah, because we're- But...
39:13
we're gonna have listeners that are in our, our DraftKings pool, so we gotta be a little bit careful. Yeah, we all get to pick- My strat-... the same.
39:20
They're not gonna, they're not gonna pick- My, my- They don't have the balls to pick my sixth.
39:24
My strategy is I, I usually don't tend to go to, like, the top three to five highest salary guys, 'cause to your point on Scheffler, like, they just take up such a big percentage of your salary cap that I...
39:37
Your, your team just, you've got two or three guys that you don't feel comfortable with. So I, I always get comfortable kind of, I mean, I'll pull it up right now. I get comfortable in that, like,
39:47
9,500 to 8,500 range, and just try to pick as many of those players that I really like heading into the tournament as possible, and try to avoid having, you know, a 6,000 salary guy who most- more likely than not is gonna miss the cut.
40:03
What you're trying to do in, in the DFS lineup, you want, you wanna get every guy past the cut, right?
40:08
That's, that's how you're gonna generate points, and then you hope one of the two of the guys that you picked are flirting with the, with the title on Sunday. But if you lose two of your six, it's over.
40:18
It doesn't matter if you've got a really good top-heavy lineup. Having those two guys miss i- is gonna prevent you from winning. So just, just don't, don't spend it all on Scheffler, Rory, Rahm, Bryson.
40:29
Like, get, get to that 9,500, 8,500 range. Try to get three or four guys there, and then dip down to seven to 7,500.
40:38
This is advice coming from a guy who on the players had four of his six picks in the top five at that tournament. [laughs] That was pretty good. So I was watching you- That was rad...
40:45
from the pool in Austin just going, "This son of a bitch." [laughs] Like, unbelievable. I don't know. Had Fitzy, had Cam, had Ludvig. It was, it was- Yeah, had 'em all... easy picking there, man.
40:54
It was easy- Dude, that was-... picking there... that was housecleaning. Yeah. I'm looking, I'm looking at the- So you're, yeah... salaries, I'm looking at the salaries now, like Adam Scott, who we both like, $7,200.
41:06
Can't beat it. He's gonna be- Yeah... he's gonna be in the lineup. Also, Henry also. Henley. He does well at the Masters all the time, and he was... I thought he, what is he, 78, 76? He's low.
41:15
Yeah, I think he's had, I don't know if he's had some injury, like he's missed a couple tournaments. But yeah, he, he usually, he doesn't win majors, but he definitely shows up.
41:23
He, he kind of flirts in that, you know, he's in- He's your cut maker. Yeah, he's your cut maker. I like the lefties this week, too, right?
41:29
Lefty golfers have historically thrived at, at Augusta with the natural fade they've got. So I would, I'd pick between Ashkay and Big Bob, right? Those two. Big Bob almost won on Sunday.
41:42
I actually like that he didn't win on Sunday going into the Masters.
41:46
That's a guy that's continued to show up in the majors the last couple of years, almost won the US Open last year, has won the Scottish Open, like beat Rory head-to-head in the Scottish Open.
41:56
Like, he's a big game player. He's played in the Ryder Cup. Very high on, on, uh, Big Bob McIntyre. And then, you know- Yeah... Batiat won Arnold, uh- He's a dog out there... yeah, won, won, won, uh, the API at Bay Hill.
42:10
He's got Max Homa's old caddy, Joe Greiner, who, you know- Is that a good or bad?... Max Homa's had some success here. I think it's good, because Homa's had success at Augusta, right? No, he has.
42:19
Top three a couple of years ago. He's the- No, you're right about thatHe's a, he's a beloved caddy. So I, you know, all those, Ashkay I think is like 7,800 if I'm looking at that right now. Big Bob is 8,600.
42:30
So that's right in that range that I was talking about. Um, and if you're going that approach, I think you get a, a much more well-rounded lineup. You're just hoping that, you know, Scotty and Rory don't win.
42:41
I, I'm not worried about that, which is gonna be something I'm gonna probably eat my words on. One word, one name we've not said the entire time needs mentioning is Sadecki. It's interesting that he has not- Yeah...
42:51
gotten any, he's not yet coming in hot, but he's not, like, cold exactly, and I- he's a, he's a winner. He's a gu- You know, I don't know. That's one that is interesting.
42:59
I, I'm not betting on that, but I do think that it's, he's, he's kinda flying under the radar, which I, I like. A person who almost certainly won't win that I want so badly to break out is Min Woo Lee.
43:10
I love his game so much. Yeah, me too. I love that dude. Got to play, I told you this story. Let him cook, let him cook, Scotty. Let him cook, Scotty.
43:15
I got, I got to play the chef for a hole at Rich Harvest Farms, and took my ball from him- Yes... which is one of my greatest stories. I just need him to break out for it. Masters is tough, though.
43:24
That's a tough one for him, but I, I do think that he's, he's just got- He's got, he's got the game... such a tool bag. He's definitely got the game. God, is he good. There's no doubt about that.
43:32
He's definitely got the game. The last one I'm gonna put out here, and we talked briefly, is Fleetwood. I just, it's a hard one, but he's a, the n- the, the... If you're an oddsmaker, if you're picking for money,
43:42
he's pretty good, you know, as far as value there. He's a, obviously an incredible player. It's just he had the FedEx, and that's kinda, that's the thing. There's a lot of, a lot of shed tears.
43:53
He's gonna tr- he's gonna, he's gonna try his, his hardest. [laughs] Aren't we all? Isn't that what sh- Listen, dude We all do this... I, I love Tommy Fleetwood. My, my cousin Cale got me on Fleetwood years ago.
44:04
He's obsessed. He's lost probably $10,000 betting on Tommy Fleetwood. Um- A real man... I, I, I, I can't do it, man. I bet... My advice on Tommy Fleetwood, top five, top 10. Don't bet him to win. Yeah, always.
44:16
Until he's, until he has proven that he can win an actual event, like the Tour Championship with 30 people, yeah, it was great. Th- th- that's not winning at Augusta. That's not winning a major.
44:26
That's not winning the players. I gotta see it before I believe it, and, you know, I'll, I'll take, I'll cash the money at top five or top 10. Stay away from a winning ticket on Tommy.
44:37
I am going to save my prediction market rant for our next episode, but I'm just gonna tell people who are not on the Robin Hood, Kelsey train like I am, Fleetwood is a dream. He is a short ga- He's the short master.
44:53
I can buy him at a great low rate, and then watch him get into contention, and watch all the idiots bet him up, and then just short sell the shit out of him, 'cause I know- That's smart...
45:02
where I'm gonna find him on Sunday. Right where I got him, at two cents. That's what's gonna happen. I love the man. [laughs] He's gonna peak. I'm calling it right now.
45:09
He's gonna peak at around 45 to 50 cents, 51 cents if he gets in the top five at the end of Saturday. By the end of Sunday, he will be at one cents. I, I'm telling you right now, and I love the guy- Y- you're gonna...
45:19
and I wanna see him win. You're selling that contract at what point? That's my wallet talking right now. That's my wallet talking. Um- What, what are you selling that contract at?
45:27
Oh, I'm gonna buy and sell multiple times. I'm gonna get, probably gonna get in around 30. No, but in that, but in that scenario, right, if you've got Tommy and he gets up to, like, 50 cents, when are you selling him?
45:36
So unfortunately, you can only choose to the, to the baseline, so those of you who aren't... Like, and it, it's different for different sites. Poly market's a little different. I use Robin for the most part.
45:45
It will basically tell you the floor. So if he's, if he's being bought at 40 cents, he's probably a limit sold at 38 or 37 or whatever, minus fees.
45:57
So you've gotta kinda figure out, like, did I buy him at three cents to either win- I gotcha... or are you doing top five? So now I'm buying at, like, 10, 11 cents or 7 cents. Probably more like 6 or 7 cents.
46:07
If he gets to 45 cents, I'm selling it, would I sell at 42? If I do not believe that he's gonna stay in the top five into Sunday, then I get out there.
46:15
If he's in the top five at the turn on Sunday, he's gonna be, like, 60 cents. At 60 cents, legit, I might just sell. I would probably sell, even if he wins. Yeah, that's smart.
46:25
I mean, if he wins, obviously, you know, shit happens, but it, it's- We're, we're gonna, we're gonna need a whole, like, I, I need an education on the predictions market. I will bring it.
46:33
You'll give that, you'll give that to our audience, 'cause you know.
46:36
It's the investor's take on gambling, and it's, seems wholly illegal, but for right now, it's still alive, so we'll, we'll talk more about that in the future. I just think it's, it's an interesting topic.
46:45
But either way, Joe, it was a blast to have you back. Congratulations to you, and to me, and to us on getting this show elevated into, I think, another stratosphere. I wasn't sure if we were gonna, what we were gonna do.
46:56
We were just dicking around doing clips, and people seemed to like it. I wanna thank Chris and Sports Mockery team for, for giving us the opportunity- Absolutely... for building an incredible tech platform.
47:06
They're launching their brand new site in the coming week or so here. It's gonna be sick. You're gonna be able to play GM on Chicago sports teams, helping you with your fantasy picks, in-depth coverage.
47:16
They launched a new Bears podcast with Jerry Azuma. He's now under the Sports Mockery handle. And in general, if you, if you go to, to nostrokespod.com or Sports Mockery, you can find their Masters Pro edition.
47:28
It's a platform that we built that allows you to tap into all the things that Joe and I were talking about, visually see it, play picks, and, uh, here's a little wink, a little wink and a gun.
47:38
There's a section in the bottom of that, that is just a joy to play, and I'll leave it at that. But I highly recommend people check it out.
47:45
I hope you follow us on all the, all the socials @nostrokespod, and you can always find me @katoon, and now you can find Joe @venmojoe on the IG. My guy, thank you so much for taking the time. Hey, man.
47:59
Always a blast, dude. Looking forward to, to taking in the Masters with you this week, and winning some money for, for our audience. Great to be back, my friend. I think that's the move. Let's go. See ya, buddy.
48:10
Have a good Masters. Have a good week. See ya.
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